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200+ Horsepower !??!
karathos
+1y
No no dont go 2.3, Buy a Probe GT engine...Anything but the 89 because it had a smaller turbo and injectors. And put that in, I have one in my black 91 Probe Gt dyno'd at 243 HP with minor mods....Telling you those bastards are torquey.
streetsweeper1
+1y
or you could go with a good old fashioned V8. My opinion is if your going to do a motor conversion do somthing that looks good too. If you want different the word Kia should'nt be on the list of cool options. That's just my 2 cents
dssur
+1y
Originally posted by streetsweeper1
If you want different the word Kia should'nt be on the list of cool options. That's just my 2 cents
Normally I'd agree but...
Mazda built the engine for Kia, it is a detuned FE3 Japan market Mazda engine. Change the cams to the japanese spec, open up the exhaust and intake and you will have 165 hp. Just to be clear, the "Kia" motor uses the same block as the B2200/2000, so it bolts up to your transmission and drops right into the motor mounts. Also, The B6 Miata 1.8l stainless header bolts on (so I am told by Jim, who did just that)
But the best thing is that all the FE3 mazda engines in Japan are FWD, so you'd need to change the intake to be able to use the JDM FE3, but the Kia is RWD, have I mentioned that it bolts right into a mazda truck?
Very cool.
If you want different the word Kia should'nt be on the list of cool options. That's just my 2 cents
Normally I'd agree but...
Mazda built the engine for Kia, it is a detuned FE3 Japan market Mazda engine. Change the cams to the japanese spec, open up the exhaust and intake and you will have 165 hp. Just to be clear, the "Kia" motor uses the same block as the B2200/2000, so it bolts up to your transmission and drops right into the motor mounts. Also, The B6 Miata 1.8l stainless header bolts on (so I am told by Jim, who did just that)
But the best thing is that all the FE3 mazda engines in Japan are FWD, so you'd need to change the intake to be able to use the JDM FE3, but the Kia is RWD, have I mentioned that it bolts right into a mazda truck?
Very cool.
streetsweeper1
+1y
sounds cool, but does it look good???
dssur
+1y
check out madlowmazda's profile.
the501clique
+1y
actually this truck isnt turboed the big sticker on the window is just advertising for the business High Performance Imports which does some badass motor shit. this truck is actually sold now. but i would give HPI a call especially if you are interested in turboing it. the owner danny has done work to plenty of mazdas (he actually owns the one with the s2000 motor in it) and im pretty confident could turbo it to over 200 with tearing down the block and a rebuild. even though he will probably try and talk you into a motor swap. HPI 631-774-5159Originally posted by Low_SST
this is a guys truck from creative styles i would try to get intouch with that club ato get some info on it because its turboed.
this is a guys truck from creative styles i would try to get intouch with that club ato get some info on it because its turboed.
karathos
+1y
Also something else to clean up about the FE3, It is close to the same block as the 2000 and 2200. But not the same. Its a different casting, And also comes with oil injectors on the bottom if the cylinders for cooling on the piston skirt....same as the 4G63 installed in talons and eclipses. Other than that they are quiet similar
Low_SST
+1y
Originally posted by the501clique
actually this truck isnt turboed the big sticker on the window is just advertising for the business High Performance Imports which does some badass motor shit. this truck is actually sold now. but i would give HPI a call especially if you are interested in turboing it. the owner danny has done work to plenty of mazdas (he actually owns the one with the s2000 motor in it) and im pretty confident could turbo it to over 200 with tearing down the block and a rebuild. even though he will probably try and talk you into a motor swap. HPI 631-774-5159Originally posted by Low_SST
this is a guys truck from creative styles i would try to get intouch with that club ato get some info on it because its turboed.
is it big al with the turbo...i wasnt sure but i couldnt remember.
actually this truck isnt turboed the big sticker on the window is just advertising for the business High Performance Imports which does some badass motor shit. this truck is actually sold now. but i would give HPI a call especially if you are interested in turboing it. the owner danny has done work to plenty of mazdas (he actually owns the one with the s2000 motor in it) and im pretty confident could turbo it to over 200 with tearing down the block and a rebuild. even though he will probably try and talk you into a motor swap. HPI 631-774-5159Originally posted by Low_SST
this is a guys truck from creative styles i would try to get intouch with that club ato get some info on it because its turboed.
is it big al with the turbo...i wasnt sure but i couldnt remember.
Minty Fresh Maz
+1y
So i'm thinkin between 8-11psi Do you think i could do 11 with 9:1 pistons. 8.5s? And just keep everything else pretty stock. Beef up fuel delivery a bit and hit it with some spark. Any suggestions on turbo size/styles. I will for sure have an intercooler up front. Oh, will the FE3 Cam be good with the Turbo setup???
D Boyle
D Boyle
Kyrasis6
+1y
A N/A B2000 or B2200 isn't going to get close to 200 hp without dropping about 5,000 into the engine and a lot of dyno time.
My flowbench testing showed that the stock intake manifold is only capabable of providing 150 hp with the best racing parts in all the engine. So maybe with titanium valves and retainers, forged custom made (not stock replica) pistons, some lightweight rods, balanced rotational assembly, dyno tuned headers and exhaust, lots of flow bench tuning on the head, weber 38 and some heavy compression ratio 130 hp is probably the max you can expect. The head has extremely crappy flow and velocity numbers at low and mid range lift. The design of the ports is just as crappy and probably the cause of this, they are a shallow 90 degree design and oddly shaped in the center. On top of that they have a sharp bend in the side which creates a huge dead band of flow through about 25% of the valve.
I havn't tested the fuel injected manifold but I'm guessing in order to get close to 200 hp NA it will need to be fuel injected with a stand alone system and a custom made manifold with a more efficient throttle body. The head will probably never make more than 140-150 hp without serious valve job and port work and that is being extremly optimistic.
Anybody who thinks their truck is pushing 150 hp better try running a 2nd Gen RX-7 because they are about the same weight and put out 140-200 hp and I can garantee if the RX-7 is in good running order it will smoke you.
The only practicle way to get 200+ hp out of a B2000 or B2200 is to turbocharge it at about 10 psi or more. Even supercharging it will be hard to get that kind of horsepower because of the amount of force it requires to turn a supercharger at that kind of boost.
I've been emailed by some of those crazy canadians and a few guys up in washington who say they are cranking about 230 hp at 10-12 psi of boost on stock rods and forged pistons. The FE3 is duel overhead cam If your talking about doing this on the B2000/B2200 the best thing would be to have a custom turbo profile cam made.
My flowbench testing showed that the stock intake manifold is only capabable of providing 150 hp with the best racing parts in all the engine. So maybe with titanium valves and retainers, forged custom made (not stock replica) pistons, some lightweight rods, balanced rotational assembly, dyno tuned headers and exhaust, lots of flow bench tuning on the head, weber 38 and some heavy compression ratio 130 hp is probably the max you can expect. The head has extremely crappy flow and velocity numbers at low and mid range lift. The design of the ports is just as crappy and probably the cause of this, they are a shallow 90 degree design and oddly shaped in the center. On top of that they have a sharp bend in the side which creates a huge dead band of flow through about 25% of the valve.
I havn't tested the fuel injected manifold but I'm guessing in order to get close to 200 hp NA it will need to be fuel injected with a stand alone system and a custom made manifold with a more efficient throttle body. The head will probably never make more than 140-150 hp without serious valve job and port work and that is being extremly optimistic.
Anybody who thinks their truck is pushing 150 hp better try running a 2nd Gen RX-7 because they are about the same weight and put out 140-200 hp and I can garantee if the RX-7 is in good running order it will smoke you.
The only practicle way to get 200+ hp out of a B2000 or B2200 is to turbocharge it at about 10 psi or more. Even supercharging it will be hard to get that kind of horsepower because of the amount of force it requires to turn a supercharger at that kind of boost.
I've been emailed by some of those crazy canadians and a few guys up in washington who say they are cranking about 230 hp at 10-12 psi of boost on stock rods and forged pistons. The FE3 is duel overhead cam If your talking about doing this on the B2000/B2200 the best thing would be to have a custom turbo profile cam made.