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just an opinion
ducky996r
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Im not here to start a rant or rave or put someone out but I have seen some prices that just seem way out there in reguards to 22.5 to24.5's milled down to 22's or 4's. Now im not here to start a bash or cut someone down but when i can buy 6 brand new alcoa 24's for $2190 and have them all milled for $900 and get brand new tires ( 295/40 24) for $ 948 bringing the grand total too $4,038 and someone wants to charge $6,200. Please explain where the reast of that NOT QUITE BUT CLOSE TOO $2200 COMES FROM. and on top of that most shops charge plus shipping. Now I do understand the whole running a buisness as i run my own but to over charge 2 g's is a little out there. And for the extra 2 g's im not opposed to buying just one wheel and taking it to a friend who has a large CNC shop and having him do the other 5 wheels and sharing that knowlegde with anyone who ask.
I guess i come from a back ground of vintage bikes that everyone sat around and talked about what they did and how they did it. Not just for pride of being smart but for the fact that if they did not pass it on it died with them. To me not showing or telling people how you did something only limits your "scene" to an extent. I just find it sad that people are trying to get money out of something that we all use to (maybe im wrong on this) have a common intrest in. And if that is still true then what is wrong with showing others. To me the ones who dont share are the ones that get left in the dust. but hey thats just my opionion and everyone has one. But in my feild and area that is how its been.
I guess i come from a back ground of vintage bikes that everyone sat around and talked about what they did and how they did it. Not just for pride of being smart but for the fact that if they did not pass it on it died with them. To me not showing or telling people how you did something only limits your "scene" to an extent. I just find it sad that people are trying to get money out of something that we all use to (maybe im wrong on this) have a common intrest in. And if that is still true then what is wrong with showing others. To me the ones who dont share are the ones that get left in the dust. but hey thats just my opionion and everyone has one. But in my feild and area that is how its been.
ducky996r
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forgot to add adapters. So figure in another $800. You still have $1200 diff.
also could be wrong forum, could be a off topic thread?
also could be wrong forum, could be a off topic thread?
huskerdually
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Cheaper, cheaper, cheaper. That's why all of our jobs are in china and unemployment is through the roof.
I can get so and so to do it, he doesn't really know the right way or have quite the right tools, but it should be close enough. That is why there are so many laws and regulations to what we can and can't do. People got it close, then it broke causing damage to something or somebody.
What about figuring out how to do it in the first place? What about the guy who ruined 10 or 20 rims figuring out the right way to do it. Then having them tested to make sure they are strong and safe for what they are going to be used for? It's easy to copy what other people do, heck, joe morrow made a huge business out of it.
That's my opinion on it. We as a country and a hobby are cheaping(I know not a real word) ourselves into nothing but a bunch of crap not worth buying.
I can get so and so to do it, he doesn't really know the right way or have quite the right tools, but it should be close enough. That is why there are so many laws and regulations to what we can and can't do. People got it close, then it broke causing damage to something or somebody.
What about figuring out how to do it in the first place? What about the guy who ruined 10 or 20 rims figuring out the right way to do it. Then having them tested to make sure they are strong and safe for what they are going to be used for? It's easy to copy what other people do, heck, joe morrow made a huge business out of it.
That's my opinion on it. We as a country and a hobby are cheaping(I know not a real word) ourselves into nothing but a bunch of crap not worth buying.
ducky996r
+1y
oh god dont even start me on the shipping shit over seas and before anyone makes that statement they should be ready to back up where they shop. INCLUDING WALMART. Anyways, had nothing to do with cheap,cheap,cheap. Has to do with over paying for something. And its not a so and so person, they run a muti million dollar machine shop... Futher more the concern of the guy ruining 10-20 or even 100 doesnt matter. If he sells his product its bound to be duplicated, AND YES AT A LOWER COST. Thats called buisness 101.
Doing it right in the first place is right. Or why else do it. And for alot of the buisness out there they got it right by coping. So be it. Its how things go. now am i gonna buy a set of $6200 wheels and then pay $600 to ship them here when someone local (even if they copied) can do it for a alot cheaper. UM NO, because that would be throwing away money that I earned and would like to keep to support my local buisness. But if somone wants to support other buisness's else were thats there whole doing and whole other subject.
Me personally dont see my self cheaping my way into anything when I dont see the price is fit. There are alot more companies poping up that are "coping" and offering these wheels at alot more reasonable prices...And what happens to the guy that is marking them up, either lowers prices or goes under or finds another nich. Nothing wrong with good local competition. Its buisness, and if your product is better than you have nothing to worry about, because in the end they will be wishing they bought from you in the first place.
Doing it right in the first place is right. Or why else do it. And for alot of the buisness out there they got it right by coping. So be it. Its how things go. now am i gonna buy a set of $6200 wheels and then pay $600 to ship them here when someone local (even if they copied) can do it for a alot cheaper. UM NO, because that would be throwing away money that I earned and would like to keep to support my local buisness. But if somone wants to support other buisness's else were thats there whole doing and whole other subject.
Me personally dont see my self cheaping my way into anything when I dont see the price is fit. There are alot more companies poping up that are "coping" and offering these wheels at alot more reasonable prices...And what happens to the guy that is marking them up, either lowers prices or goes under or finds another nich. Nothing wrong with good local competition. Its buisness, and if your product is better than you have nothing to worry about, because in the end they will be wishing they bought from you in the first place.
lockone
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Since this seems to be directed at me and my business because I sale my 24" wheel kits for $6200, I will touch on the subject for a bit. First of all call any of the other companies in this business and get a price from them. Notice I said companies and not individuals selling out of there houses/garages.
The big difference between the prices you have listed and my prices are the tires prices. You have $948 dollars listed for a set of 6 24s???? That is stupid prices and they must be made of plastic by Wing Wong Dong or some other no name company. I sale my kits with top Brand name tires that have a load rating that will uphold to the vehicle specs. Most of my 295/40/24s run in the $300-350 range. That is the main price difference in your package and mine. Mine also includes cap/lug covers, mounting/balancing, and all the other processes that go into getting these wheels to a customer. There are many many other expenses that go into having a reputable business and the correct tools to make these items but I am not going into depth on them.
Another thing we also offer discounts for being on certain forums and no price is set in stone. My company and I are here to help people out with information and provide the best prices we can. I get people everyday telling my that my prices are the best and I also have people telling me the are not the best. To each their own! Opinions are like Assholes, Everyone has one.
The big difference between the prices you have listed and my prices are the tires prices. You have $948 dollars listed for a set of 6 24s???? That is stupid prices and they must be made of plastic by Wing Wong Dong or some other no name company. I sale my kits with top Brand name tires that have a load rating that will uphold to the vehicle specs. Most of my 295/40/24s run in the $300-350 range. That is the main price difference in your package and mine. Mine also includes cap/lug covers, mounting/balancing, and all the other processes that go into getting these wheels to a customer. There are many many other expenses that go into having a reputable business and the correct tools to make these items but I am not going into depth on them.
Another thing we also offer discounts for being on certain forums and no price is set in stone. My company and I are here to help people out with information and provide the best prices we can. I get people everyday telling my that my prices are the best and I also have people telling me the are not the best. To each their own! Opinions are like Assholes, Everyone has one.
ducky996r
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Nope was not directed at you. Was just using that price a reference and why i did not put any names down. Like I said its not to put anyone down, maybe more as wanting the know the reason why. And as for the comment of the tires being wing wong dong! They are the Nankang tires, but you can also get, And anyone can get this price by searching...Continental 285/40/24 tires for $184.00 each for a total of $1104.
Now i know some tires out there are $300-400 and brands like perrelli, I have used Perrelli before and never again. Had pzero's and tire wear sucked. Over priced tire in my opinion! I would also like to know, TWT do you offer kumho or sumitomo tires. If so arent those wing wong dong tires? just curious. Because it would seem you dont like wing wong dong tires?
Now at that wing wong dong comment again. Why is it bad to buy a out of country product when its good. Almost all other tires are manufactured in other countries so whats the diff. I have done searches on the nankang tires and have found no neg. comments. doesnt mean there arent any. Just because its chinese people assume its shit. Not always. But if its made in germany or italy, etc. it must be good. I have no issuses with buying a good product, weather its from here or germany,japan,brazil etc. Hell alot of the trucks on this board werent even made(assembled) in this country. alot were done in Mexico or canada. Money may have come back here, but still not made here. Look at half the shit anyone owns. Its not made here!
Its called an open market and if someone can make the same or better product for a lesser price, and i agree that this can be a double edge sword, but...if you can do it there is nothing wrong with that product. Now do i think everthing needs to be a set or low price, hell no. Buisness is in buisness to make money and I will pay a good price for anything that i see of worthy value. And to me alot of those prices are way out there. Especially when its not that hard to figure it out on your own. And yes, opinions are like assholes and everyone has one. And everyone has a right to set there prices where they are. but everytime someone says I can do it for this or he can do it for this, they assume its some back alley idiot and try to make it seem like only of handful of people know what they are doing or are the only ones that can do it.
"Notice I said companies and not individuals selling out of there houses/garages."
well here are some other companies prices
and like i said. im not here to call anyone out. so that is why i didnt put names.
Company 1.
22 x 8.25 Alcoa Shaved Classic + 305/40 or 45R22
Sale Price $4,600.00
same company in 24's
24 x 8.25 Alcoa Shaved Classic + 285 or 295/40R24
Sale Price $5,300.00
company 2.
Now im guessing these are used wheels but.
24 Semi Wheel Set - $2325.00 including adapters but not tires to add the conti for a total of $3425.00
company 3.
24"x8.5 Shaved Alcoa Classic Big Rig Dually Wheels
$4,199.99
These are on the high end and dont have tires or adapters.
company 4.
Will either mill your wheels for $100 a piece or you can buy a set for $1750. Now those are no adapters and no tires and the wheels are used. but are "guarantee" to be true, if not they are replaced and those are in 22's and 24's.
Now i know some tires out there are $300-400 and brands like perrelli, I have used Perrelli before and never again. Had pzero's and tire wear sucked. Over priced tire in my opinion! I would also like to know, TWT do you offer kumho or sumitomo tires. If so arent those wing wong dong tires? just curious. Because it would seem you dont like wing wong dong tires?
Now at that wing wong dong comment again. Why is it bad to buy a out of country product when its good. Almost all other tires are manufactured in other countries so whats the diff. I have done searches on the nankang tires and have found no neg. comments. doesnt mean there arent any. Just because its chinese people assume its shit. Not always. But if its made in germany or italy, etc. it must be good. I have no issuses with buying a good product, weather its from here or germany,japan,brazil etc. Hell alot of the trucks on this board werent even made(assembled) in this country. alot were done in Mexico or canada. Money may have come back here, but still not made here. Look at half the shit anyone owns. Its not made here!
Its called an open market and if someone can make the same or better product for a lesser price, and i agree that this can be a double edge sword, but...if you can do it there is nothing wrong with that product. Now do i think everthing needs to be a set or low price, hell no. Buisness is in buisness to make money and I will pay a good price for anything that i see of worthy value. And to me alot of those prices are way out there. Especially when its not that hard to figure it out on your own. And yes, opinions are like assholes and everyone has one. And everyone has a right to set there prices where they are. but everytime someone says I can do it for this or he can do it for this, they assume its some back alley idiot and try to make it seem like only of handful of people know what they are doing or are the only ones that can do it.
"Notice I said companies and not individuals selling out of there houses/garages."
well here are some other companies prices
and like i said. im not here to call anyone out. so that is why i didnt put names.
Company 1.
22 x 8.25 Alcoa Shaved Classic + 305/40 or 45R22
Sale Price $4,600.00
same company in 24's
24 x 8.25 Alcoa Shaved Classic + 285 or 295/40R24
Sale Price $5,300.00
company 2.
Now im guessing these are used wheels but.
24 Semi Wheel Set - $2325.00 including adapters but not tires to add the conti for a total of $3425.00
company 3.
24"x8.5 Shaved Alcoa Classic Big Rig Dually Wheels
$4,199.99
These are on the high end and dont have tires or adapters.
company 4.
Will either mill your wheels for $100 a piece or you can buy a set for $1750. Now those are no adapters and no tires and the wheels are used. but are "guarantee" to be true, if not they are replaced and those are in 22's and 24's.
ducky996r
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and all those prices are for 6 wheels
someotherguy
+1y
Maybe I'm confused. If you found a source to get what you want cheap, buy them there. If price and price alone is all you care about, it shouldn't matter if someone else sells them for higher. The only purpose I see of this post is to start some low-grade drama...
Richard
Richard
brianbgboy
+1y
or you can just buy my 24's for 3500.00 with adapters, or 3000.00 without your choice!!!!!!
ducky996r
+1y
Nope no drama. Was just a opinion and a question. TWT answered his side saying that some of the tires account for the cost. And thats fine. And there was no drama till people started making assumptions. Like the rims being made in a garage,or wing wong dong tires, or that im being cheap or that im here to cause drama. All wrong...it was more of asking where is the difference coming from and that it just didnt fit to me. So i asked. If you disagree, hey no problem. thats your opinion and how you feel and i cant change that.