Kia FE3 DOHC - Carb.

So if I get a full harness with ecu and ignition components etc, the entire engine should be plug and play? I realize I would need to flip the intake mani and change the oil pan.

Definatly possible but sounds like the harness sucks. If that wasn't the case I would be all for this! My b2200 is going to be down for a few months and I'm looking at putting a grand into it (webber, header, rings, gaskets, etc). A local yard quoted me $800 for a '01 kia engine, harness, & ecu. oh what a mess. gotta think about this

So buy the kia engine for 400 bucks- tell them they can keep their precious wiring harness and ecu! Just buy the long block- let them keep the exhaust manifold- all of the engine accessories, but keep the lower intake and injectors.

MS2 preassembled is 410 plus a wiring harness is 50 bucks, add 150 for ford edis parts and trigger wheel pulley, then have the junkyard pull you a miata 1.8 exhaust manifold and a ford probe/ 626/ mx-6 f2 12 valve upper intake and TB, and you are done!

you'd be maybe 100 bucks over your 1000 for a maybe 95 hp stock mazda engine with a webber and pacesetter, or pay that extra 100 bucks and have 150+ horsehorse dohc kia ! Fuel injection, and room for more power!

That is a no brainer there!

You sir make a good argument. As my own lawyer I may have to take your side of the case. lol Going down at lunch to price the longblock. Hoping to hear good $. This is the same place that sold me a pair of stock chrome tails for $10 btw...

I'm glad you see what can become of the kia swap- it will be the new engine for these trucks as the older b2000/b2200 engines wear out, a low mileage kia sportage bolt in motor is just the ticket for more power and a newer engine

is there a post about the ford edis and what is needed and how to make it work i think there should be atech on this just for the guys who want to swap f2t in there trucks and for the guys who want to do a fe3 swap

Ford edis-

This is a standalone igniton control system utlizing coil packs, a crank trigger pickup wheel and a control unit/ ignition box. It can be found on ford escorts, some 626's, a variety of cars.

It is a wasted spark ignition system, so it fires 2 cylinders at once, but only 1 cylinder uses the spark energy- the other cylinder doesn't use it- so it's a wasted spark.

The kia sportage also ultized a wasted spark igntion system- and you can re use the stock kia coil packs with ford edis system. However, kia's igintion control module is built into it's pcm- and is not a standalone system.

To make it work- you'll need a crankshaft trigger, with ford's 36 toothed minus 1 tooth trigger wheel attached to the crank- and a VR sensor pointed at the wheel to "time" the ignition.

The system runs at 10 advance all the time in standalone mode. Once a controler of some kind is in communication with it (like megasquirt) then it can recieve information to advance or retard ignition timing.

It's a slick setup- becuase you can really dial in your timing adance for almost any setup- and plenty of spark energy with the coil pack.

EDIS also uses a multispark below 1100 rpm I believe- on each igniton event it fires multiple times to acheive a smoother idle.

This is all just off the top of my head- some basic information about edis and how it applies to us.

very cool does anybody know what parts i would pull from an escort i have no clue what im looking for if i do

And does any one make the crank wheel sensor?

I had my crank wheel pulley modifyed at a machine shop and made my own vr sensor mount out of scrap metal.

At the yard you will need to pull the EDIS 4 unit- in front of the drivers strut tower on the escort AND it's pigtail connector!

I'd just get the VR sensor from your parts store- and the 36-1 tooth wheel too- look at Boost engineering's website for part numbers and prices- they have these parts for you. Also check ebay- they ussually have these parts too.

Get the VR sensor pigtail at the yard and the coil pack pigtail- and coil pack too- or get a summit MSD blaster coil for 65 bucks new

or use stock kia coil packs like I did- hehe

OK the new intake manifold is here ready to be chopped up and the carbs are sitting on the shelf.

Everything should be going to gather soon when I get a day off.

For anyone who wants to buy this setup I'll throw in the edis module and pigtail all that would be needed is coil and megajolt