whats everyones beliefs?

I looked up a few things from secular sources so I have to put up a link to wikipedia's Messianic prophecy page as well. It's done really well, and has skeptic's view points included:



But really as I said we've talked about Christianity beliefs already a whole lot lol. I wanna know what God would be like to the "non-Christians" so to speak, or even the aetheistic point of view IF there was a god.




For hitsorical reasons, this one's good too:

Oh don't get me wrong I don't dispute that their are many historically accurate events within the bible, only that there are questions along with it.


And I hope you take my comments in good humour, I am not here to offend you in any way shape or form, your beliefs are your beliefs and I totally respect them as being yours.

Ditto bro lol, I'm in no way offended.

But I really hope someone answers my questions lol.

Hmm. Its hard to say what i believe in. But i think there must be some kind of higher power up there somewhere not sure if its god or a jesus or what. But i mean we all came from somewhere, and the thought of that itself is pretty sweet.

And more so..We all have to go somewhere. Because lets face it, we were probably only designed to last 100 or so odd years for SOME reason. there has to be something. Your not going to (IMO) just sit in the ground and rot for however million years lol. I hope.

I've been putting lots of thought into it, I lost both grandmothers over the past 2 months. So im kind of believing, more so hoping that theres some kind of higher power or whatever you wanna call it that our life carries on.

I dunno. This is probably hands down the most debatable subject around, we could go on for years.

Sorry. Had to put a new pic from today up lol

Sorry to hear about your loss....I have lost all of my grandparents, an unlce, sister many animals, and family friends and it never gets any easier.

Wow! Sorry for you both. I've only lost my grandfather...which was the most influential person in my life, aabout 3 yrs ago, and lost my great aunt about 4 months ago. Both to cancer, him from smoking.

All I can say is that there is hope in Jesus Christ for a life in the next "realm". He showed us that we will be ressurected by being ressurected Himself. And He promises that He's "goes to prepare a place for us" now.

And btw you are correct in that "we were made for 100 years or so" lol. Before the flood of Noah (according to the Bible), people lived as much as 900+ years, (it helped populate the earth), but God decreed that man should have a lifespan of about 120 years..."Genesis 6:3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."

Looking around I found this scripture and I don't think I could say it any better, for this describes the Christian hope brilliantly:

1 Peter 1:3-9
3Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fadeâ€

"or even the aetheistic point of view IF there was a god"

I don't understand the question. How could an atheist describe a God since, according to atheists, there isn't one ??

Some time ago I ran accross this website:

I believe it clearly describes my state of mind: a worldview free of supernatural and mystical elements.

Therefore, I could not give you a description of something that is supernatural or mystical in nature.

1HotDawg,

So far you have revealed yourself to be a learned man, staunch in your belief of a deity and I respect you for that.

However, I clearly disagree with you on the above statement.

How can you seriously believe the following:

Before the flood of Noah (according to the Bible), people lived as much as 900+ years, (it helped populate the earth)

1. Scientific studies have shown there isn't enough water on the surface of the Earth to account for Noah's flood.

2. Science has demonstrated time and again that the human body deteriorates with age because of damage to our DNA, so 900+ years old is out of the question. If we could re-write our DNA then we could probably live longer.

3. Geneticists have proven and well documented incest cases - Roman, Egyptian and British royal families - have shown that inbreeding causes terrible malformations and diseases among the descendants of said inbred families. Therefore, according to scientific belief, Noah and his family were not sufficient in numbers to prevent inbreeding so, logically, the flood could not have been a world-killing phenomenon and humans elsewhere were unaffected.

Don't get me wrong, it's okay to believe in a deity or a religion. However, it's not okay when said belief makes its followers say things or believe in things that science has clearly shown to be impossible.

You might say that your god "created" enough water for the flood or that he "willed" people to live 900+ years but that, according to me, is a weak answer. It's too easy to say: "Have faith and all will be explained."

I am open-minded enough to concede there might have been a dude called Jesus who walked the Earth 2000 years ago and that he taught some radical concepts like "love thy neighbor" and such. Stranger things have happened. However, I remain convinced there is no such thing as a "god" out there who; created the entire universe, is directing every aspect of my life, is battling the devil for my soul, etc... That's just superstitious make belief.

God is good and i fully believe in him and his teachings with all my heart. he is my personal lord and savior.

lol nice reply there Richard. First off, I was not asking you to imagine a being you don't believe in. But people don't accept a God for a reason, and usually it's because a person just doesn't accept a principle about the God they've heard of. Either way, we can all imagine a "god" and what he'd be like IF there was one.

I am aware of the brights lol...which imo is just another religious belief except it's more about believing in man's abilities alone and denying even the simplest "mystical" happenings.

As for your 3 points against incest, there still even today where "successful" incestuous births have happened...but either way, I know things of all beings have evolved in many ways to where I do believe it could have been possible.

As for Noah's flood, believe it or not, I do believe as many scientists believe that it could have been "local" to the inhabitants of the earth at that time. Science has proven that we did mostly come from one certain area and were not found to inhabit the earth as a whole....so basically God wouldn't need to flood the entire earth