C&C rear end

1980 crew cab dually all stock for now

im thinking about buy this and i dont know a whole lot bout the c&C rear end im still searching for info



this is in my town so im not worried about shipping it i need to know if it is a c&c rearend he said it measure 53 1/2 inches from drum to drum ive read it should be 44inch is that correct for this year?

if i put this on with the stock wheels will i have to cut into the bed because of the differnts in width?

and im sorry if these question have been answer in other post i didn't find them


thanks

all the info about 14 bolt rearaxles including the measurments between the faces can be found here

I also think that a c&c rear axle has the pumpkin offset to one side, ben shady had a little problem with space if I remember correctly.

If I'm wrong I apologize.

The SRW and C&C axles use the same housings and shafts, with the difference in width being in the hubs. The housings are actuallly identical except for the location of the backing plate flange. Drums & hubs are different, but backing plates, shoes, and wheel cylinders are the same) * The SRW and Van axles use the same hubs, the C&C and DRW axles use the same hubs; Though different, the SRW/Van hubs and the C&C/DRW hubs can be interchanged causing a change to the axles WMS (see pics below) SRW and C&C axle shafts are the same ** Van, DRW, and SRW/C&C axle shafts are all different lengths as follows (long/right side / short/left side):
Type 1 - SRW/C&C - 37-5/8" / 31-5/8"Type 2 - DRW - ??
Type 3 - Van - 39-3/8" / 33-3/8"
C&C and dually brakes are the same.In all cases one side axleshaft is shorter than the other; pinions are centered. 1350 appears to be the only available stock pinion yoke.1-tons feature 40.5" perch spacing - whether C&C or pickup, whether SRW or DRW. 3/4-ton is 42.5" spacing. (COUNTER) - The perchs on my C&C measure 36"Wheel studs went metric for the 88-up C/K trucks, and 96-up vans
Front 60 and rear 14b spindles have the same bearing spacing and same bearing journal sizes. Seal journal is different

this is a little bit out of that site i mentioned looks like youre right , it allso seems that if youre planning on mounting diskbrakes at the rear (k25 frontdiskbrakes fit theres a how to on that website as whell ) you might as whell look for a single rearwheel 14 bolt and change the hubs to those of a dualy according to the website there the same exept for the flange holding the backingplate for the dually drumbrakes ..... makes finding new axles eazier too since theres plenty single wheel one tons to be found

thanks for the info now i need to start reading on that info on the other site

so with all this info...
Get a 1T SRW axle, and install the Dually rear hubs and now you have a C&C??

did i read all that right?

you would have an axle with C&C dimensions the flanges for the brakeplates are mounted to close to the end to make it a treu C&C axle or even mount the single wheel drums with the dually hubs

since most of the people here modify the axle to take 4 links airbags and the lot i dont think its a huge problem to move the flanges towart the bellhouse or make a bracket to mount the calipers for diskbrakes

see it would help if i could even find one around here to look at, but that isnt working out so well... if i could see one it would probably help a tad bit more...

1st what does the WMS mean? in "TypeWidth WMS-WMSTube OD / ThicknessApplicationsHubs*" of that page?

Here's a pic to maybe illustrate:



Now if any one got measurements for all 4 of those and maybe any others that i might have forgot for :
DRW
SRW
C&C

I think it would help alot out and then maybe make the pic a sticky??


understand what your saying about about the drums, but if you convert it over to discs heres what i was thinking

option 1:
since a C&C and a DRW hub are the same??
option 2 :
using a "C&C", meaning a C&C is really a 1 ton with dually hubs?
option 3 :
that's for the guys with a C&C already but it gives you a good idea of the difference in spacing
option 4 :
weld in

i think wms means wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface wish would be the most logical place to measure

as for the options , you have to realize youre making sumtin gm never made that way so the flanges are in a weird possition , non of those brackets from option 1 to 3 will fit out of the box because they mount to that same flange , you would need spacers to make them work or again move the flanges towarth the bellhouse

if youre welding you might as whell go for the weld in option 4 that way you can leave the flanges where they are should you decide to convert the axle back to srw

why didnt i think of that....