Mustang II vs Yota Clips

Ok so i have bagged a yota on cando arms... kicks ass and so on. well i just got a M2 clip and im trying to figure out the main differences and why you cant get as much lift/ drop..... i found this thread http://streetsourcemag.com/forum/Topic.aspx?topic_id=94081&forum_id=16&Topic_Title=IFS+suspension%3f%3f&forum_title=Suspensions and i want to know what to i need to do to get that much travel? what has been modified other than the rack issues? any body have any insight on the issue? thanks

the yota front end stock unmodified will get more lift then the II suspension.

the yota is newer, updated geometry, and plain over all works better.

the mustang II was designed in the 70s. some of the bigger street rod aftermarket supppliers remade the crossmember, and have added more anti-dive and newer geometry to the new II suspensions.

if your going to put a new fornt end in your ranger, id get a yota, its cheaper.

well i allready have the m2 clip and im just wondering about the link i posted that seems like it would be enough lift to untuck 20s on the explorer. i guess i just need too take the clip to where the yotas at and take some measurements and see whats different.

i also wana say the arm lenght. since the lower is way longer then the upper it binds out quicker.

Originally posted by bagged85



i also wana say the arm lenght. since the lower is way longer then the upper it binds out quicker.

Not necessarily the LCA length in comparison to the UCA length, but the UCA length in relation to the balljoint. I had this same issue with the Nissan. The UCA is so short (about 6.5" from cross shaft to balljoint) that it creates a tighter arc for the balljoint to travel on. This tighter arc makes the balljoint move more than it should need to, and thats what limits the travel. I can only get 9 inches of travel out of the Nissan suspension before the balljoint binds on both ends. If that UCA was longer, by say 2 inches, it would probably travel 12 inches very easily before binding. But changing the geometry that is already there isn't always a good idea, unless you really spend the time to do it right.

well im gona take a look at it again today i only messed with it for a little bit the other night and it seemed like each individual balljoint has more travel in it but when combined they dont seem to want to go much farther im wondering if it is something to do with the spindle maybe or even the balljoint angles. ill post up some dimensions later on the m2 might be a day or 2 before i can get the yota dimensions. im probably gona use the m2 clip because i allready have it but im just kinda curious to what the main differences are. im wondering what troy in that link i posted did to get that mazda built on the 22s.

thanks again guys

also another thing i just noticed is that it looks like the crossmember was built a little bit lower than the stock crossmember and the lca mount in relation too it. so that dont really mean anything other than the stock crossmember wont lay on the ground with the rest of the frame on my truck.

I have a mustan 2 setup in my truck and I extended my uppers 1 1/2" and not had any problems.

Edited: 3/28/2008 2:26:17 PM by slammed x on air

do you have any pics of the chassis or the truck at full lift? and also, are you mounting points the normal points and you just extended the arms? or did you move the uca mounts as well? thanks

nice truck by the way!

waht seth said is what i meant lol.