well, i'm still broke as shit, but right now i have more money than time. The only time i get to work on my shit is a couple nights a week after everyone else goes to bed (appx. 11pm-2am or whenever i crash out), i don't have a shop, so i'm outside (where it's freezing right now). I don't have any sheet metal yet, so for me right now it will be more cost and time effective to get the sd tubs. thanks for the info guys, and thanks AVTekk for letting me know for sure.