thanks i will have to look into that. i hope they are the same so i can save myself a couple hundred bucks. so today i blacked my grill and started phase one of blacking the emblems. you can see in the pics that they are all lumpy as i did not sand them flat. well when i have some more time i am going to sand the face of the "b2600" down and just do the letters also ill attach a pic of the garbage speakers i replaced