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need parts for 2-Link
lkrayzie
+1y
damn, if he wants to run a 2link let em, he knows what hes gettin into. its his truck right?
so anyways, go and pick up some 2x2 1/4 thick, then some bushings. when i built my 4link i used moog bushings for mazda leaf springs, they were like $7 each, then get some 1.5" 1/8 thick DOM, and a 1.5" bi metal hole saw. get some 1/4 flat steel and make some new mounts for you 2link. then you'll have everything you need. have fun tho, thats all i have to say
so anyways, go and pick up some 2x2 1/4 thick, then some bushings. when i built my 4link i used moog bushings for mazda leaf springs, they were like $7 each, then get some 1.5" 1/8 thick DOM, and a 1.5" bi metal hole saw. get some 1/4 flat steel and make some new mounts for you 2link. then you'll have everything you need. have fun tho, thats all i have to say
iceman9669
+1y
well like mark said... you just have to set it up right!!! and i am sure i will have him istall to get all the angles right, but anyways it doesn't seem to hard to build a 2link. and some more info i just decided to run it from the factory front leaf hanger and going to bold it to the bottom of the axel via spring purch. i really appreciate all the info... you guys know how to help people out... thanks a lot!~!
lkrayzie
+1y
Originally posted by iceman9669
well like mark said... you just have to set it up right!!! and i am sure i will have him istall to get all the angles right, but anyways it doesn't seem to hard to build a 2link. and some more info i just decided to run it from the factory front leaf hanger and going to bold it to the bottom of the axel via spring purch. i really appreciate all the info... you guys know how to help people out... thanks a lot!~!
yea, but you only have the right angles at one height is the problem. so if you dont really hit the switchs, and only drive on even ground, your good. anyways, good luck with it
well like mark said... you just have to set it up right!!! and i am sure i will have him istall to get all the angles right, but anyways it doesn't seem to hard to build a 2link. and some more info i just decided to run it from the factory front leaf hanger and going to bold it to the bottom of the axel via spring purch. i really appreciate all the info... you guys know how to help people out... thanks a lot!~!
yea, but you only have the right angles at one height is the problem. so if you dont really hit the switchs, and only drive on even ground, your good. anyways, good luck with it
trashed
+1y
to whoever said that auto companies dont make 2 links anymore..... you need to think out side the box, not trucks, but unibody cars/vans have 2 links and coils if not built from the factory with an irs.... this is a pic of my buddies scion, bagged with the factory 2 link, it has a bar that runs across the middle for support also...i think the only realy problem when you bag on a 2 link is the pinion angle problems due to the link pulling the wheels foward. if you build it right and set it up for a certain ride height or have the bars long enough so that the pinion change is minimal, everything should be just fine.
dssur
+1y
Originally posted by trashed
to whoever said that auto companies dont make 2 links anymore..... you need to think out side the box, not trucks, but unibody cars/vans have 2 links and coils if not built from the factory with an irs.
*SIGH*
Those arent two links. They are called "trailing arms", and even solid rear axle FWD cars have bushings at the axle end or use an I beam for the cross axle to allow articulation. IRS on the other hand stands for INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION which means each side can move up and down independently of the other. That will never ever ever EVER happen with a two link.
Look, I hate being Mr Negativity, but this seriously has to stop. People compare a design that has NOTHING IN COMMON with a half assed 2x2 bolted to a solid rear axle and say "auto companies have been doing it for years", which also begs the comparison that cutting a piece of square tubing with a cutoff saw is the same as a TEAM OF ENGINEERS DESIGNING A REAR SUSPENSION FOR A PRODUCTION CAR.
Semi trucks: The ones I have seen in pictures use I beams which allow a measure of flex or use a half pack of leafs that also will flex, as well as multiple bushes at the axle end for the same purpose.
Nascar: When you drive on a banked oval, your steering input is minimal. I drove on the Kansas Motor Speedway and all roads should be that smooth and bump free. In the case of Nascar, the flat handling with limited articulation is a benefit.
Factory cars/trucks: There is nothing, inside or outside the box, that is even remotely close to square piping from the factory leaf perches to a solid mount on the axle.
Can you use a 2 link? Sure. You can build air bladders from hefty bags for all it matters to me. But dont say they are better in any respects except:
1: priceabout the cheapest way to hang a rear end.
2: difficultyno moving anything to mount, especially if you re use the leaf perches.
Otherwise, there is no advantage, only disadvantages. If you can live with em, do what you like.
There was a factory perch mounted two link on my mazda when I bought it, and it was the most ghetto thing I have ever seen. The wheel moved forward in the wheel arch about 3 inches at full drop, and that push ruined the u joints, the carrier bearing, and the tranny seal. It didnt happen overnight, it was on there about a year and a half, and the truck still drove if you held your tounge right and set the ride height.
RECAP: No such thing as a "factory" two link like what guys are using on their trucks. Only one ride height where the pinion angle is right. Limited articulation, and the frame stresses at the front mounts as a result.
to whoever said that auto companies dont make 2 links anymore..... you need to think out side the box, not trucks, but unibody cars/vans have 2 links and coils if not built from the factory with an irs.
*SIGH*
Those arent two links. They are called "trailing arms", and even solid rear axle FWD cars have bushings at the axle end or use an I beam for the cross axle to allow articulation. IRS on the other hand stands for INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION which means each side can move up and down independently of the other. That will never ever ever EVER happen with a two link.
Look, I hate being Mr Negativity, but this seriously has to stop. People compare a design that has NOTHING IN COMMON with a half assed 2x2 bolted to a solid rear axle and say "auto companies have been doing it for years", which also begs the comparison that cutting a piece of square tubing with a cutoff saw is the same as a TEAM OF ENGINEERS DESIGNING A REAR SUSPENSION FOR A PRODUCTION CAR.
Semi trucks: The ones I have seen in pictures use I beams which allow a measure of flex or use a half pack of leafs that also will flex, as well as multiple bushes at the axle end for the same purpose.
Nascar: When you drive on a banked oval, your steering input is minimal. I drove on the Kansas Motor Speedway and all roads should be that smooth and bump free. In the case of Nascar, the flat handling with limited articulation is a benefit.
Factory cars/trucks: There is nothing, inside or outside the box, that is even remotely close to square piping from the factory leaf perches to a solid mount on the axle.
Can you use a 2 link? Sure. You can build air bladders from hefty bags for all it matters to me. But dont say they are better in any respects except:
1: priceabout the cheapest way to hang a rear end.
2: difficultyno moving anything to mount, especially if you re use the leaf perches.
Otherwise, there is no advantage, only disadvantages. If you can live with em, do what you like.
There was a factory perch mounted two link on my mazda when I bought it, and it was the most ghetto thing I have ever seen. The wheel moved forward in the wheel arch about 3 inches at full drop, and that push ruined the u joints, the carrier bearing, and the tranny seal. It didnt happen overnight, it was on there about a year and a half, and the truck still drove if you held your tounge right and set the ride height.
RECAP: No such thing as a "factory" two link like what guys are using on their trucks. Only one ride height where the pinion angle is right. Limited articulation, and the frame stresses at the front mounts as a result.
iceman9669
+1y
like i said before i am only running 1/4" dot airline with a schrader valve and it will be at one hight lowered as must as possible.. but thanks again for the reply's
lkrayzie
+1y
Originally posted by Russ-D
Originally posted by trashed
to whoever said that auto companies dont make 2 links anymore..... you need to think out side the box, not trucks, but unibody cars/vans have 2 links and coils if not built from the factory with an irs.
*SIGH*
Those arent two links. They are called "trailing arms", and even solid rear axle FWD cars have bushings at the axle end or use an I beam for the cross axle to allow articulation. IRS on the other hand stands for INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION which means each side can move up and down independently of the other. That will never ever ever EVER happen with a two link.
Look, I hate being Mr Negativity, but this seriously has to stop. People compare a design that has NOTHING IN COMMON with a half assed 2x2 bolted to a solid rear axle and say "auto companies have been doing it for years", which also begs the comparison that cutting a piece of square tubing with a cutoff saw is the same as a TEAM OF ENGINEERS DESIGNING A REAR SUSPENSION FOR A PRODUCTION CAR.
Semi trucks: The ones I have seen in pictures use I beams which allow a measure of flex or use a half pack of leafs that also will flex, as well as multiple bushes at the axle end for the same purpose.
Nascar: When you drive on a banked oval, your steering input is minimal. I drove on the Kansas Motor Speedway and all roads should be that smooth and bump free. In the case of Nascar, the flat handling with limited articulation is a benefit.
Factory cars/trucks: There is nothing, inside or outside the box, that is even remotely close to square piping from the factory leaf perches to a solid mount on the axle.
Can you use a 2 link? Sure. You can build air bladders from hefty bags for all it matters to me. But dont say they are better in any respects except:
1: priceabout the cheapest way to hang a rear end.
2: difficultyno moving anything to mount, especially if you re use the leaf perches.
Otherwise, there is no advantage, only disadvantages. If you can live with em, do what you like.
There was a factory perch mounted two link on my mazda when I bought it, and it was the most ghetto thing I have ever seen. The wheel moved forward in the wheel arch about 3 inches at full drop, and that push ruined the u joints, the carrier bearing, and the tranny seal. It didnt happen overnight, it was on there about a year and a half, and the truck still drove if you held your tounge right and set the ride height.
RECAP: No such thing as a "factory" two link like what guys are using on their trucks. Only one ride height where the pinion angle is right. Limited articulation, and the frame stresses at the front mounts as a result.
sometimes you gotta be "mr. negativity" to get your point across, i say let em think what they want.
Originally posted by trashed
to whoever said that auto companies dont make 2 links anymore..... you need to think out side the box, not trucks, but unibody cars/vans have 2 links and coils if not built from the factory with an irs.
*SIGH*
Those arent two links. They are called "trailing arms", and even solid rear axle FWD cars have bushings at the axle end or use an I beam for the cross axle to allow articulation. IRS on the other hand stands for INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION which means each side can move up and down independently of the other. That will never ever ever EVER happen with a two link.
Look, I hate being Mr Negativity, but this seriously has to stop. People compare a design that has NOTHING IN COMMON with a half assed 2x2 bolted to a solid rear axle and say "auto companies have been doing it for years", which also begs the comparison that cutting a piece of square tubing with a cutoff saw is the same as a TEAM OF ENGINEERS DESIGNING A REAR SUSPENSION FOR A PRODUCTION CAR.
Semi trucks: The ones I have seen in pictures use I beams which allow a measure of flex or use a half pack of leafs that also will flex, as well as multiple bushes at the axle end for the same purpose.
Nascar: When you drive on a banked oval, your steering input is minimal. I drove on the Kansas Motor Speedway and all roads should be that smooth and bump free. In the case of Nascar, the flat handling with limited articulation is a benefit.
Factory cars/trucks: There is nothing, inside or outside the box, that is even remotely close to square piping from the factory leaf perches to a solid mount on the axle.
Can you use a 2 link? Sure. You can build air bladders from hefty bags for all it matters to me. But dont say they are better in any respects except:
1: priceabout the cheapest way to hang a rear end.
2: difficultyno moving anything to mount, especially if you re use the leaf perches.
Otherwise, there is no advantage, only disadvantages. If you can live with em, do what you like.
There was a factory perch mounted two link on my mazda when I bought it, and it was the most ghetto thing I have ever seen. The wheel moved forward in the wheel arch about 3 inches at full drop, and that push ruined the u joints, the carrier bearing, and the tranny seal. It didnt happen overnight, it was on there about a year and a half, and the truck still drove if you held your tounge right and set the ride height.
RECAP: No such thing as a "factory" two link like what guys are using on their trucks. Only one ride height where the pinion angle is right. Limited articulation, and the frame stresses at the front mounts as a result.
sometimes you gotta be "mr. negativity" to get your point across, i say let em think what they want.
baggeddogs
+1y
See my mazda that has over 100,000 miles on it since it has been bagged has never had anything done but a new clutch... I dont think there is a single person on here that can say they drive shit harder then me...i drive like i am at the race track everywhere i go so im not sure what "real word" driving im not doing, but i never seem to have probs with my stuff. I am in no way saying that a 2 link is better or not then a 4 link, thats not the question that was even asked on this forum but I will say this one last thing (and im sorry if this is your truck) but it is still in the install because i know none of you will think this is right...
baggeddogs
+1y
pinion angle thats is on the above pic...
trashed
+1y
russ, i know what an irs is read a little closer and you would see that..
anywho, i guess i didnt look at it that way.
anywho, i guess i didnt look at it that way.