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need help with stock floor body drop



george smith

 
Joined: 8/25/2004
Posted 9/15/2006 via Website

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how do i do it please help i need to go lower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seth Bomar

 
Joined: 11/8/2004
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I'm going to warn you right now, you're going to get some replies you wont like. But do a search, theres a thread on this thta was started recently, and there are some good pictures of an S10 frame being built.
Bobby Ellis

 
Joined: 1/8/2006
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its not something average joe can do without a ton of knowledge.. pay someone to do it. a traditional bodydrop is easier but you seem like you dont know anything. get a few friends who do and have em do it/show you to do it.. but i wouldnt tackle stockfloor at your level.
george smith

 
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ok i understand that eas probally a stupid question on my part, but i was told i can just take out the body to frame mounts, but wouldnt that ride like A$$
cris collins

 
Joined: 10/26/2003
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*bites his tongue*
Derek Belt

 
Joined: 12/27/2005
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haha,thats unsual cris
scott lang

 
Joined: 3/9/2004
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Originally posted by bdroppeddak *bites his tongue* was thinking the same thing.... dont do it..
george smith

 
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some fn help not criticism!! i dont like to pay other people to work on my truck
Derek Belt

 
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y are u wanting 2 stockfloor it if it isnt even bagged yet
cris collins

 
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check out my site, those stockfloor bodydrops are little more complicated, you can get by like this: my fullsize still has most of the stock frame, just the part under the cab is rebuilt.
Bobby Ellis

 
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Originally posted by solows10 some fn help not criticism!! i dont like to pay other people to work on my truck that attitude is why there are so many hacked up trucks out there
josey sandy

 
Joined: 10/13/2003
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ok a stock floor body drop requires to rebuild the intire frame from the firewall back. this is extremely hard. and even harder to do it right and have it road worthy. or another way to stock floor it is to cut down the factory frame rails and reposition the bodymounts and then renforce the frame again something that is amazingly hard and will take even the best fabricators and frame builds with all of the best tools a long time to do corectly. and by u ask'n such a blunt question as (how do i stock floor bodydrop a truck) says that u are not qualified to do such a huge amount of very tedioius work. not say'n that ur not just that the question leeds people to think such. and yea for this website your gonna have to change the attitude and grow up and learn to take criticism with a grain of salt and let it go. and in ur profile the truck is not even bagged is it now? and yes to all of u that know more than me i know i did not cover everyway to stockfloor a truck i just tried to hit the high points.
josey sandy

 
Joined: 10/13/2003
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not hate'n or be'n a dick just try'n to help u learn the same way i did.
hellspawn

 
Joined: 6/27/2006
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what exactly is your skill level at??? Can you lay down a proper weld...not one that just looks nice? What about your tools for cutting and shaping the frame? would like to help you out but dont want to explain every detail if i dont have to. It sux when ppl shit on you cuz you're new but its understandable when we're drivin next to some one that built their truck under their apartment balcony and a t 70mph the truck brakes in half wipes out some kid cuz an idiot thought full penetration was somethin to do with sex not welding.
josey sandy

 
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^^^^^ exactly u must be a very good welder^^^^
Jeebus @ MMW .

 
Joined: 7/5/2001
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i posted this in another thread....but i guess it could apply here. chances are if you have to ask "how do i do it" you shouldnt be jumpin right into it right away. well, there really is no step by step outline for a SFBD, i mean there really is too many ways to do one...every way is different, some people use the shell of their stock frame and just cut it down....some make completely new frame rails and join them to the stok ones by the engine compartment. I did mine by fabricating new frame rails completely under the cab, and then made transition frame rails from ware the flat ones ended and ware the stock frame sat, to make a nice smooth transition from the new sfbd frame to the stock front section. started out by making a frame table, setting my stock frame on it, marking out all the body mount locations and heights. then i cut the stock section of the frame out and pulled it off the table, and layd my new frame rails in for a moch up. Then, i cut and rolled out some side panels to join the end of the flat frame rails to the stock section of the front clip. I took 2" of height out of the stock frame also to make it blend right. Then i welded in those side panels so they were sturdy, then cut and rolled otu a cap for the side rails. Used some heat to shape it right and keep the gaps the right amount for weld. Weld everything in fully, outside and inside. grind it smooth, and your new frame rails are joined to the stock front clip. Thats how i made my rails for my SFBD, then my i just made new body mounts, lowered them off of my markings and jigs i made for them when the stock frame was on. Ill have pics of that next week. hope that helps at all...maybee?
ShaveDnFlamed99

 
Joined: 9/19/2002
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where is St. Joesph MI? talk to guys like Taylor (chopped mazda) on here, research his work he knows what the hell he's doing. PMA motorsports is now located in Lapeer MI they are one of the best Shops in MI to do that type of work but Carl and Paul are real easy guys to talk to and always seem pretty kool w/ answering any questions that are thrown there way. pmamotorsports.com SFBD are a pain in the ass for a 1st timer and take alot more engineering than most people think to do it properly.
David price

 
Joined: 11/16/2003
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ya man, your gonna get shit for such a blunt question, but you can look at my profile on my 92, and that should give you an idea. it's all the same concept, but every truck make/model is gonna have different problems. I say join a club (if not aleady) and bug your club members to help you with it. ( Thats after you go to a three day and get de-virginized. ) good luck
David DuBois

 
Joined: 8/30/2004
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as most guys that have been building minis for a while will tell you... theres too much shit on the road that shouldnt be there. SO...with that said, take it from me when i tell you to take it to a professional and have it done right the first time. if ida done that, i wouldnt have had to redo parts of my truck 3 times over and i woulda been BD'd by now. Do your research, find a worthy shop, or even someone in your area that you can buy beer for and have him help you do it yourself. just remember...it costs more to redo the first fuckup than it will to do it right the first time. take ur time...a SFBD is A LOT of work. i know a lot of people that are welders and wouldnt think of building a frame cuz they know that its a lil far out for them right now with their skill level.
Chuck Long

 
Joined: 10/15/2004
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that's a mighty nice lookin frame table....simple, yet effective
corey jonasson

 
Joined: 11/9/2003
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My frame is the first sfbd that i've ever done.... and an IRS to top it off. just cause its your first doesn't mean its gonna be a hacked mess. I took my time, asked a lot of questions and thought abotu every step i've taken so far. Everything on my frame pretty much has a purpose and has been thought about long and hard. There were times when I could have done things a lot quicker, but they just wouldn't have looked as good or flowed with the rest of the frame. A lot of people could have said the same things about me wanting to do a sfbd before I started... they could have said it would have been an abortion.... but I took my time (still am taking my time) and doing things right the first time. With that said though, a person getting into this kind of project had better know how to weld, had better be able to take criticism and put it to use. Ask all kinds of questions, I was always told the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Be sure your skill level is up to par with the job you are about to start working on. You will definatly learn new stuff as you are working thru it, I know I did. But you don't want to go into something blind and get in over your head and end up building something that is way past what you are capable of, or put something on the road that is not safe for you or others around you. So make sure you are going to be able to get the job done and get it done right. If not either pay a good shop to do, or get your skill level up higher before you attempt it. Good luck!
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