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Matrix Systems Paint, anybody use it?



Colin O'Key

 
Joined: 10/11/2006
Posted 11/20/2007 via Website

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Edited: 11/20/2007 11:21:19 AM by spraybomb I like their colors and similarity to HOK. It also seems that both OEM colors and custom colors can be made from one system, which would be nice! I've sprayed a couple colors before and they worked awesome, but I recently heard someone saying a local bodyshop was using them and having delamination problems. I do know that they were using cheap primers underneath and a different brand of clearcoat, so that may have been the problem. Anyone got some feedback? Good, bad or indifferent? * Guess I should mention also.....I'm starting my own Custom paint and airbrush shop and I need a good paint system. I like the Matrix cause it's compact (all colors can be mixed from one system). Most of my work will be custom, so I really don't need a huge selection of OEM colors. Plus I'm on a pretty tight budget. Any suggestions?
ROSITA FLORES

 
Joined: 8/9/2006
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YA BRO THE CUSTOMS STUFF IS OKAY AND EASY TO USE BUT I'VE USED IT FOR 2 YEARS AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOUR A PRODUCTION PAINTER THE COLORS DONT MIX WELL OFF THE MACHINE AND THE STANDARD COLOR IS A LEAST 2 SHADES OFF. THIS IS REAL BAD WITH THE GM REDS,BLUES,GREENS, TOYOTA IS AS BAD, PRETTY MUCH EVERY METALLIC IS OFF AND NEEDS TO BE TINTED.THE QUALITY OF THE SPRAY IS GOOD.I HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THE CLEAR COMING OFF I USED MATRIX PRIMER,BASE AND CLEAR. IT WAS OKAKY FOR A WHILE BUT I GOT TIRED OFF HAVING TO BE TINTING WHEN I COULD BE PAINTING. SWITCH TO BASF
Brian Walker

 
Joined: 11/4/2006
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I've never really used there paints or ther e mixing system, but it sounds like the shit!(exept for the de-lam part ...LOL) hope somone else has more helpfull info?..... "Lost cause"
cj whitehorn

 
Joined: 4/6/2004
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Matrix is badass, thats what i've got on my truck goin on 6 years now
exotic dreams

 
Joined: 9/28/2005
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I've been using matrix for the past year, but i only do custom painting. It's very comparable to PPG, but i don't know about color matching. All i know is i've never had a problem mixing PPG and matrix, even the reducers.
thebagged1

 
Joined: 11/27/2003
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my landlords shop used it.... i deffinatly dont like there mixing setup... it sprayed alright but i never had to match anything with it... used it on a factory color change... so not sure... i loveeee the sikkkens i usedf on my truck but its also prob 2x the money
PIMP DADDY

 
Joined: 4/26/2001
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i use matrix all the time its supposed to be a knock off of the ppg system it works well for custom applications also try the nexa system which is also a ppg knockoff i used nexa and matrix leftovers to due this truck

JOHN SALAS

 
Joined: 8/2/2001
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ITS NOT A KNOCK OFF OF PPG .. IT IS PPG . THE HEAD CHEMIST FROM PPG. QUIT 2 YEARS AGO , AND SENCE PPG . DIDNT PATENT THE SYSTEM HE TOOK HIS FORULA AND STARTED MATRIX PAINT !
exotic dreams

 
Joined: 9/28/2005
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That's good to know. Has anyone had trouble using featherfill high build primer by evercoat, with the matrix system?
Colin O'Key

 
Joined: 10/11/2006
Posted 11/21/2007 via Website

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Thanks for all the info guys. It really helped out. *Joel, I love Sikkens too. There was a jobber right down the road from me that I bought all my paints from. But then the bastards up and moved, lol.
coolpaintprofessor

 
Joined: 11/14/2007
Posted 11/21/2007 via Website

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Matrix Is good paint like some others said it is a clone of PPG, even the toners for the mixing system hafe the same identical can numbers and names of each toner if you like PPG you'll like Matrix
ShaveDnFlamed99

 
Joined: 9/19/2002
Posted 11/21/2007 via Website

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Dont use Matrix if you're trying to color match anything they suck as far as that goes. Even if you were to try to repaint a bumper later on down the road that was rock chiped or whatnot it will never match to the rest of the body color
ROSITA FLORES

 
Joined: 8/9/2006
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Originally posted by ShaveDnFlamed99 Dont use Matrix if you're trying to color match anything they suck as far as that goes. Even if you were to try to repaint a bumper later on down the road that was rock chiped or whatnot it will never match to the rest of the body colorTHATS WHAT I WAS SAYING! USE IT AS A OVERALL PAINT JOB AND SMALL STUFF ITS OKAY! BUT LIKE I SAID IF YOU ARE IN THE COLLISION BUSINESS AND ARE A PRODUCTION PAINTER DONT USE IT! COLORS DONT MATCH LIKE IT SAYS IT DOES! FOR OVERALL JOBS ITS GOOD THE 42 CLEAR IS REALLY NICE AND ITS CHEAP ALSO IT LAST A WHILE
ROSITA FLORES

 
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Edited: 11/21/2007 4:40:26 PM by KILLERC10 THE MATRIX SYSTEM USE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS,I USED THE 42 CLEAR.MATRIX FOR PRIMER TO CLEAR

Kelly Burch

 
Joined: 8/7/2004
Posted 11/21/2007 via Website

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"Instigator" was painted with Matrix paint.
Lance696

 
Joined: 8/27/2003
Posted 11/25/2007 via Website

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ive used it and it works REALLY WELL !!!! so does PPG's new line of product.. "ShopLine" it sprays really nice and is slick as glass
tupaco a

 
Joined: 12/8/2004
Posted 11/25/2007 via Website

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I HAVE EVERYTHING I NEED TO PAINT MY TRUCK AND ITS ALL MATRIX PRIMER SEALER HARDENER. JUST HAVE TO FINISH THE TRUCK
low89mitsu

 
Joined: 10/5/2003
Posted 11/25/2007 via Website

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Edited: 11/25/2007 10:49:32 AM by low89mitsu not very good for collision work and tryn to match paint its always off but but we use it and rm at wrk for any thing else and mainly matrix for custom jobs, and i personally like sikkens for projects that i shoot
thebagged1

 
Joined: 11/27/2003
Posted 11/25/2007 via Website

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yea good thing my work are ballers and use all sikkens in collision work.. woohoo i got masssssssive discount on my paint for truck... but shit atelast they could do for spending 15k a week on paint
John Keith

 
Joined: 12/14/2003
Posted 11/25/2007 via Website

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I wont use anything but Matrix anymore i love the shit and have had no matching problems except when i got some of the cheaper standard basecoat. I use the Autoglas European clear and that shit is badass. We've got a system coming so itll all be in house including the FX line
hubert sharp

 
Joined: 1/3/2005
Posted 11/25/2007 via Website

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i used sikkens for years and it is really good but after using spies for the last year it gives sikkens a run for its money.i realy do not care for usa made paints just my opinion
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